Health Group Discussion Notes
Develop list of items to work on (Categorizer)
Family planning
1. The most effective method for reducing carbon
dioxide emmisions is family planning.
2. Very important to environmental and human health.
3. Fighting cultural barriers, survival odds
4. Mechai: Mr. Condom, Thailand. Highly effective.
Cabbages and Condoms.
5. What FP opinion in Islam? Koran says only if the
mother's life is at stake. Nurse/MW/Doc How many now?,
how educate? How feed?, Pill available for 30 years.
Herb-based abortion. If unmarried, both can be killed.
Malcom Potts of UC-B PH is in Afghanistan now.
6. Rape needs to be escalated as a major cultural
crime. Not a cause for blame or ostracism.
7. Contraception to those who really need it.
8. Children are energy. Use those terms. Energy in
the broad sense. Fuel.
Cultural Infrastructure
1. Network of relationships.
2. Cultural: real issue is to find the infrastructure
in a community and use that instead of bringing in
an infrastructure. Identifying the cultural infrastructure.
3. Question: How to work with cultural practices that
may be internal to the culture but we find detrimental
in many other senses, i.e. communication, implementation
of systems. Some people within that culture may agree
with certain practices, others don't -- is it our
place to tell them what's right and wrong. If we don't
get rid of specifically destructive practices then
how do we really bring in healthful practices?
4. There are mechanisms for training locals within
the camps to fold into working in the clinics. Take
advantage of what's in the camps.
5. Is it valuable to have the people who have been
part of the culture to be the ones to pass along the
message to new refugees.
6. How do we encourage the network of relationships?
Within the subunit of the camp provide something,
i.e., a central tent, that is a center of the community.
7. Re-establish place, create ownership.
8. Another health issue: how people establish identity
of place and how that affects mental health.
9. A well-planned (culturally appropriate) Village
is more often a safe community.
10. Tension between decentralized and heirarchical
systems, insiders and outsiders.
11. Developing symbols and myths to facilitate positive
change.
12. Humility and adaptation should be our watchwords.
13. Community-organization skills
14. Sister communities with expats for support and
direction.
15. Look at example communities and borrow what seems
right: Curitiba, Campenas, Gaviotas, others
Female Education
1. Identity
2. Empowerment, particularly that she is protected
by the rule of international law. Not Sharia, but
the Declaration of Human Rights
3. There's a distinct relationship between literacy
and birth rate.
4. Self-Defense training
5. Conflict-resolution skills
Camp Health Care Delivery
1. Sanitation
2. Mycelia
3. Monitoring, surveilliance
4. Mental health + disabilities.
5. Eyeglasses, dentures, nutritional input.
6. Immunizations
7. Oral Rehydration Solution
8. Acute Respiratory Infection
9. Micronutrients
10. TB
11. Malaria
12. STDs, including HIV
13. Clean water
14. Fun is a critical component of any re-development,
and is DRAMATICALLY missing in any camp we've ever
heard of.
15. Mushrooms 7Basic study in Asia, supplement in
food boxwith spirulina and 7Basic or immunomodulation.
Repatriation Health Care Delivery
1. Look at systems of healing that already exist
in nature.
2. Making of the place an Eden
3. Bioneers: "Solutions from the Heart of Nature"
4. Precautionary Principle: First do no harm
5. Medicine: IndoEuropean root: to take appropriate
measures
6. Highest number of land mine injuries are in Afghanistan-need
to look at issue of handicapped people and how to
care for them.
7. A million and a half handicapped children.
8. Paul Stamets has more hard science on the nutritional
value and yield of mushrooms than anyone.
9. There is a difference between concentration of
a substance and mass loading. Remember that sometimes
a concentration of substance can over time have a
mass loading that can have a dramatic effect.
10. If we're going to build sustainable systems, make
sure we keep track of the whole picture; e.g. PVC
pipe toxicants can lead to long term detriment
11. Need to remember the health of the workers at
the camps -- it has to be an entirely different level
of care. Ratio of workers to number of refugees is
maybe 10 workers for 10,000 refugees.
12. How to create support for the workers in a situation
like this. Use all available resources (not just medical),
triage and community (drop 50% in alcohol and depression).
13. Care for disabilities. Quite a bit of that exists
in camps. These people become pariahs, rejects of
the community.
14. Look at possibility, from a health standpoint,
look at "tweaking" more of the health issues
with disabilities and restoring dignity to individuals
and promoting that within the community.
15. Goal of "health" is resilient and dynamic
homeostasis
16. Bioremediation from a health perspective
17. Medicinal plant farms as a part of the village
18. Effective non-medicinal therapy is available.
Public Policy
1. Experience with domestic Public Housing and Indian
Reservations.
2. Health degradation/improvement due to capital-driven
enterprise -- advertising.
3. Modular housing
4. Participation by refugees in all aspects of their
life
5. Policy development integrates all stakeholders.
6. All categories (food, water...) affect health more
than interventions..
7. Health degradation as a result of capital driven
incursions. Another bucket?
8. Emergency medical issues: at what point do you
switch to the long-term health issues.
9. Use our experience with reservations and public
housing in US to see how emergency care over time
becomes long-term and pathological problems. Use this
experience to work with refugee camps.
10. What can we think about in terms of refugee camps
that won't turn them into the Public Housing and Indian
Reservation pathology factories.
11. The adversity of third-party coming in "showing
up putting on a band-aid and then leaving." Identify
the cultural issues and design something so that it
is sustained by the people themselves. Have the sustainable
development be accepted and be to scale that allows
for acceptance within the community itself.
12. Caring for host-nation population near the camp?
13. Curitiba, Campinas -- examples.
14. Healthy Cities model
15. Need to be regular monitoring systems in place,
i.e., monitor water, etc.
16. Need signals on malnutrition, on children, etc.
so doctor serves as triage point for all these other
services. Health is the overarching mechanism to see
that everything else is working.
17. If we use health as an idicator is that data gathered
well or too late to make a difference? Also, how do
we gather that data? There will be index data, but
how do you do "health surveillance"?
18. Make use of a "smart" machine to do
the boring part of collecting data -- accummulation,
coallation, and assessment is valuable within health.
19. Enforcement and incentive to encourage co-operation
Mental Health
1. Support and assist the development of environmental
aesthetics and personal identity
2. Post traumatic stress, depression,apathy and boredom.
3. In Peace Corps, meet with worker every month, make
sure to send 4 or 5 people together, supervisor visited
with them once a week or so to say "we're here,"
and that changed the drop out rate significantly.
4. Staff and Refugees need methods for optimizing
ambiguity
5. Conflict-resolution skills
6. I've never seen an adult refugee in a camp laugh.
May happen, but must be rare.
Projects
1. 7-Basic Mushrooms immunomodulation supplementation
with the Seed Box introducing and expanding on the
message after prayers. Medicinal plant farms, including
FP herbs on the seed box.
2. Community X, religious leader, find religious arguments
that bolster family planning and build a specific
curriculum. Use tapes of well-known Mullahs and musicians
and poets.
3. PTSD mental health management with local health
leaders trained by Bhopal-experienced local managers.
4. Use indirect methods apealing to them to deliver
messages: entertainment, audio tapes, poetry. Music
is one of the major communicators in the world.
5. Rumi has a lot of mental health advice.
6. Domestic trials of all of this by biome.
7. "advertising" and marketing will be key.
Use games. Develop games, the backs of playing cards
and chess boards, mancala, etc. What are the cultural
colors.
Project Template (Group Outliner)
1. Area 1
1.1 Purpose of project
Stress management, particularly for mental health
{#88}
1.2 Description
PTSD mental health management using local Health Leaders
from the community trained by Bhopal-experienced (disaster-experienced)
providers in the Sambhavna program, including a meeting
space for peer support. {#85}
1.3 In which of the three "stages of encampment"
will this project take place: From UNHCR Manual -
Emergency, Care & maintenance, Durable solution
CM and DS {#89}
1.4 How will this idea be integrated into life in
the camp(s)?
Inside-up, through the Sambhavna model, incorporating
a space in early site development, perhaps incorporated
into prayer times {#90}
1.5 How does this idea relate to other project ideas?
Restoration of our largest asset, improving the capacity
of the community. Mitigating a disease that is as
debilitating as tuberculosis. {#91}
1.6 Who knows how to develop and implement this project?
Sattyu, director of the Free Clinic in Bhopal, as
well as the VA-equivalents globally. {#92}
1.7 Is this project applicable to displaced populations
in other climates and cultures?
Y {#93}
1.8 What organizations must be involved, in order
for this project to succeed?
UNHCR, UNICEF, Afghan-specific NGOs {#94}
1.9 When can this project be ready for use?
Six months. {#95}
1.10 Rough cost in people and materials:
Inexpensive. People-driven, within the community.
Methods already tested, and ready for adaptation.
{#96}
1.11 Sources of support-who can provide: Advice, Technical
assistance, money or in-kind contributions?
As above. {#97}
1.12 Next steps: Who will do what next, and by when.
Peter Warshall will contact Sattyu (Eric backstop)
{#98}
1.13 Time required for project experiment (or first
application).
1.14 How and by whom will first implementers be trained?
1.15 Method for educating teachers whom will propagate
this project in other circumstances?
1.16 By what measures will we know it works and is
replicable?
1.17 Barriers to implementation: financial, technical,
legal, political, cultural, institutional, geographic,
ethical, medical, and philosophical.
1.18 How to overcome barriers?
1.19 List activities that must take place for this
project to succeed. Include who will or should do
each.
1.20 Successes with similar projects.
1.21 Sources of reference material for this idea
2. Area 2
7-Basic Mushrooms immunomodulation supplementation
with the Seed Box introducing and expanding on the
message after prayers. Medicinal plant farms, including
FP herbs on the seed box.
Purpose is to improve immune system {#73}
2.1 Purpose of project
Immunomodulation through nutritional supplements {#86}
2.2 Description
7-Basic Mushrooms immunomodulation supplementation
with the Seed Box introducing and expanding on the
message after prayers. Medicinal plant farms, including
FP herbs on the seed box. {#72}
The mushroom spores can be delivered or freeze dried
mycelium
(Spores are hardier)
At the camp the refugees can air dry the mushrooms--this
just preserves it
Cells need to be tenderized by heat, acid or enzymes
(the quickest way is to make into soup our tea). {#82}
2.3 In which of the three "stages of encampment"
will this project take place: From UNHCR Manual -
Emergency, Care & maintenance, Durable solution
Care & maintenance and durable solution {#71}
2.4 How will this idea be integrated into life in
the camp(s)?
Integrate into culturally appropriate farming techniques
and food products--it may be appropriate to take a
pill, or putting the nutrients into some other food
may be better {#70}
2.5 How does this idea relate to other project ideas?
Incorporated into Seed Box {#102}
2.6 Who knows how to develop and implement this project?
Information from Paul Stamets
Money from James Dow, who has $1 billion to fund preventative
medicine {#74}
2.7 Is this project applicable to displaced populations
in other climates and cultures?
Absolutely {#75}
2.8 What organizations must be involved, in order
for this project to succeed?
World Food Program Implementing Partner;
Indigenous Afghan NGOs, or whichever NGOs are appropriate
for the specific culture {#76}
2.9 When can this project be ready for use?
According to Paul, the technology for mushroom encapsulation
is ready so it is a matter of getting the policy into
place and the development of the Seed Box and the
cultural intel for effective delivery and acceptance.
{#77}
2.10 Rough cost in people and materials:
Paul claims it is relatively inexpensive. It will
be even cheaper when the population is growing the
mushrooms themselves {#78}
2.11 Sources of support-who can provide: Advice, Technical
assistance, money or in-kind contributions?
Paul--technical
James Dow--money
Local NGOs--support and cultural information on how
best to introduce
UNICEF, UNDP
International NGOs
Corporate support? {#79}
2.12 Next steps: Who will do what next, and by when.
The company that is going to create the Box that has
the seeds & map will also add the 7-mushroom "starter"
Involve universities--get them to do hands on real
life projects (like Engineers without borders &
Docs w/out Borders) {#80}
2.13 Time required for project experiment (or first
application).
2.14 How and by whom will first implementers be trained?
2.15 Method for educating teachers whom will propagate
this project in other circumstances?
2.16 By what measures will we know it works and is
replicable?
2.17 Barriers to implementation: financial, technical,
legal, political, cultural, institutional, geographic,
ethical, medical, and philosophical.
People are afraid of mushrooms--you may find prejudices
(what are we doing in the "psychadelic business.")
You'll need education to address this. {#81}
2.18 How to overcome barriers?
2.19 List activities that must take place for this
project to succeed. Include who will or should do
each.
2.20 Successes with similar projects.
2.21 Sources of reference material for this idea
www.fungi.com {#83}
3. Area 3
3.1 Purpose of project
Family Planning {#87}
3.2 Description
Community X, religious leader, find religious arguments
that bolster family planning and build a specific
curriculum. Use tapes of well-known Mullahs and musicians
and poets. {#84}
Female literacy is #1 reason for dropping birth rates
It will also be major factor in environmental sustainability
Educating women will improve family health, reduce
child mortality rates
Increase family health at low cost (In the 5 countries
that achieved longevity at low cost, they
had political commitment, female literacy, nutrition
& equity health care) {#101}
3.3 In which of the three "stages of encampment"
will this project take place: From UNHCR Manual -
Emergency, Care & maintenance, Durable solution
CM&DS {#100}
3.4 How will this idea be integrated into life in
the camp(s)?
Build on "Save the Children" Foundation
efforts up to a Policy level. Coordinate with local
cultural intelligence to avoid fatal mistakes. {#103}
3.5 How does this idea relate to other project ideas?
Probably the single best intervention for both the
population and the environment. {#104}
3.6 Who knows how to develop and implement this project?
UNFPA, Save the Children, UNDP, OCHA, UNHCR, the Afghan
Mullahs, Karzai, the King, {#105}
3.7 Is this project applicable to displaced populations
in other climates and cultures?
Y {#106}
3.8 What organizations must be involved, in order
for this project to succeed?
See above. {#107}
3.9 When can this project be ready for use?
Six months. {#108}
3.10 Rough cost in people and materials:
Moderate technical cost, moderate replenishment cost,
significant political cost. {#109}
3.11 Sources of support-who can provide: Advice, Technical
assistance, money or in-kind contributions?
3.12 Next steps: Who will do what next, and by when.
3.13 Time required for project experiment (or first
application).
3.14 How and by whom will first implementers be trained?
3.15 Method for educating teachers whom will propagate
this project in other circumstances?
3.16 By what measures will we know it works and is
replicable?
3.17 Barriers to implementation: financial, technical,
legal, political, cultural, institutional, geographic,
ethical, medical, and philosophical.
Huge impediments. US policy impedes directly. Muslim
culture, poverty and wealth indicators. {#110}
3.18 How to overcome barriers?
3.19 List activities that must take place for this
project to succeed. Include who will or should do
each.
3.20 Successes with similar projects.
3.21 Sources of reference material for this idea